• The Competition Opener (Openers part 2/7)

    April 1, 2010

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    Welcome to another post about openers :)

    I will share an opener I developed the summer 2008. I number closed 9 / 10 set on day game when I used it. This is a typical canned opener, based on nonsense. In this example, I’m so nice that I will include tips from opening till numberclose. So here you get the opener – the transition – and the close.
    Remember that the point of an opening is just to open, to start a conversation. That said, some openeres are better than others. This means that some openers get the ladies to invest more in the interaction, some openers build more attraction than others.

    This opener is very good because you get time to display your personality in a playful way AND it makes the girls invest a lot.
    Here it gooooes!

    Rockstar: Sorry to disturb you girls (To say sorry when you open on the streets is common courtesy and it builds comfort and shows social intelligence), but I have lost an idiotic competition to a buddy of mine and the punishment is to stop completely strangers on the street and make a fool out of myself … can I use you guys for that?

    HB: YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!! :D (Ok, maybe not always THAT enthusiastic;) but it has happened) What do you have to do?

    Here you can choose for yourself what you will do, a lot of crazy things to choose from if one is a little creative. How I did it:

    Rockstar: I will either tell a joke or teach you something fun … what do you choose?

    HB: Teach us something funny! / Tell the joke!

    Rockstar: Okay, cool, but to prove that I actually did this to my friends I must record on my phone that you do not know me (this to make routine credible). So I put on the recorder and ask:  Do you know me, girls? (Comfort building and they invest)

    HB: Noooooo :D

    Rockstar: Great. I will teach you The Clapping Game/ thumb war. * teaching them * (Kino + leading = attraction)

    Ok, this is the opener. To teach something is the best, because then you get a lot of free opportunities to kino and busting/teasing / break rapport. What I also like to do after I have tought them the clapping game or thumb war, is to compete with them. Let’s see if you can beat me girls. I’ll bet you’ll suck!

    We all know girls love competitions ;)

    To tell a joke is also great. I recommend telling a joke which last a couple minutes because you then get the chance to show what a cool guy you are through the story and they invest time in you. Always get the girl to invest. It’s also building comfort. They laugh at the joke = comfort. Thing is that I tell a relatively bad joke, but I say in advance that they will have to laugh, otherwise I get the penalty approved and I have to tell one more, until they start laughing, something they will not, cause my jokes suck. I say this to force a laugh out of them, which is funny in itself.

    Key to all openers are of course transtition. I will write a post about this later. Hint: Statements.

    I often close with a variant of this line:

    Rockstar: You are very friendly (give them a role to live up to). I like that (reward, if the vibe is there, I give them a high five too). Most people in Oslo are quite arrogant and boring. Are you always this friendly (qualifying)?

    HB: Yes!

    Rockstar: (to qualify more; ask if they are cool or something similar) NICE! (Reward) I’ll adopt you. You are my new best friends/BFF! * Reaches out hand * My name is Rockstar! (Comfort) What is the best way to stay in touch?

    HB: Facebook / Number

    Now it is obviously a factor that we have things like body language and such in order so you will be seen as an alpha and attractive guy. This is not a magic pill, but it gives you shortcuts to show off your fun personality and make the girls trust and like you.

    Enjoy it, especially those of you who enjoys day game.

    Next post about openers in a couple of days!

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    • Bankbank said...

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      Ah, love this one! It’s been a long time since you’ve based your blog completely around your own experiences(more like a gut feeling to be honest, I haven’t actually checked;)). You’re giving something directly from yourself, not just refering to some other guys (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I believe you had an interview with Jørgen where you were talking about the same thing. Although, it’s a lot better getting it all in writing (PS: Pros & Cons with live interviews: You can do follow-up-questions to unpredicted questions, and it’s cool when you get to talk to Ross Jeffries and such. At the same time you will not get the same quality as when questions are written down in advance, and the interview subject gets the necessary time to write down his answers as “qualitatively” as possible).

      Okay, a question to your routine, and a tip you might consider for your blog.
      Question: Got any comments on walking up to multipe girls vs. one girl? better/worse, do you ask for everybodys number, etc?
      Tip for your lovely blog which I’m starting to grow very fond of: I noticed you made a referance for your clapping game (btw: saw someone use that with great sucsess last weekend). What I sort of miss, are references (either external or internal) to other expressions/games like thumb war (youtube-reference), kino (wikipedia or own article), etc. New fans stumbling upon your site in some way will probably appreciate it and get addicted to you (and I’ll appreciate it since I’m pretty new to all this myself;))

      Bankbank

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    • Rockstar said...

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      Thanks for another great comment! :)

      To answer your question. When you approach several girls (two or more), make sure you include the whole group of girls, so nobody gets bored. If that happens the girls will vanish very quickly. Remember to break rapport with target and just be friendly with the others. Like you’re on their team and your oponent is the target. When your target is attracted to you you can make her your favorite ;) Reward attraction with attraction.

      Ask for the targets number, but I like to say I will invite them all for a party or a meetup or something when I ask for the number. Unless you approach direct, then it’s natural to just get the number to get in touch with target.

      I don’t have a clear favorite, but I think it’s a little better to approach two or more girls on daygame because it’s easier to get a cool convo going on. You will also get more comfort and attraction because you will get social proof from the other girls, meaning your target will see that the girls also like you/reacts to you, which approves you for her. BUT this goes both ways of course, if they don’t like you you will have a problem;)

      But try it out yourself, you will find out what you like the most.

      About your tip: Great tip! I’ll be better at this just for you;)

      I will have an own post or page with acronyms and such. Don’t you worry, it’ll be here any day now.

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